all mazda6's

[2k8mazda6]

guys that have a 4cyl,not sure about the v6, take off your mufflers. jesus christ it sounds sooo god. not exactly a power difference but im not voidin warranty with 2600 miles on my car..YET!!...so do yourself a favor if you want to keep warranty but want a good sounding exhaust just unbolt your mufflers. 4botls and bam! car sounds like you have an after-market exhaust.

[bluestreak6]

yea looking at that......... u do know that your hot gases are now going DIRECTLY under your gas tank now right?

[zoom zoom maz6]

please fix what you have just done

[2k8mazda6]

well sorta.. but its just temporary after my 5k(oil change) im going to chop off that peice that makes it a y pipe and hollow out or just take them out. then run a single pipe.

[zoom zoom maz6]

thats what the tanabe exhaust does on the V6......... it looks like butt whole

[2k8mazda6]

well i was gonna leave it so it doesn't look like i have an exhaust at all til i get the money...for a greddy evo2 exhaust.

[reyan]

Buddy save yourself from future tickets. purchase a performance exhaust when you have the money.

[Business]

There is no "performance exhaust" for the 6i. Just get straight pipes in place of the mufflers if you want. But don't change anything else in the exhaust while keeping straight pipes in place of the mufflers. You definitely want to keep at least a cat and a resonator or, conversely, a pair of mufflers.

[2k8mazda6]

well on s.u theres the greddy evo2 full cat-back its an actuall system not a piece of aluminum and then a tip. if i can sell my motorcycle im getting that then tien basics(coilovers)

[Business]

$820 for no gains? Seriously, just buy a pair of mufflers.

[Colonel Speed]

He speaks the truth^^

[2k8mazda6]

but who do you know that has that exhaust? and if someone can prove that it wont do anything to my car then i wont. but that's kinda why im still ify on it.

[bluestreak6]

man u need to join 6club and do some searches. if ANY person can give u info about a 6i, Business is 1 of them. he's been a test dummy for the past couple of yrs for the 6 and knows a lot thru experience. he's the person i always go to b4 i think about buying something or need advice (kinda)

[2k8mazda6]

whats the website? (the url) i know that there are people on here that know their stuff but then again alot of it is opinionated and yeah there my not be much difference between an 05 and an 08 but some is more than none and something may not make a noticable diff on an auto tranni and then it does on a manual plus the driver and also what mods you do with the exhaust. there's so many variables that until i see a dyno of an 08 6 like mine ill keep my prior knowledge and opinions.

[bluestreak6]

u should do a run w/ and w/o ur mufflers to see what happens...... http://www.mazda6club.com

[Business]

but who do you know that has that exhaust? and if someone can prove that it wont do anything to my car then i wont. but that's kinda why im still ify on it.

Some guy did a dyno with the magnaflow catback on a 6i. He gained 1hp up top and 2tq down low, which are within the variances of a dyno and therefore, no gains can be head until major work is done to the engine itself. Conversely, a member with a 6s just dynoed before and after with the magnaflow catback and found gains 4-5hp and tq.

man u need to join 6club and do some searches. if ANY person can give u info about a 6i, Business is 1 of them. he's been a test dummy for the past couple of yrs for the 6 and knows a lot thru experience. he's the person i always go to b4 i think about buying something or need advice (kinda)

Wow, thanks, lol. I certainly appreciate that.

whats the website? (the url) i know that there are people on here that know their stuff but then again alot of it is opinionated and yeah there my not be much difference between an 05 and an 08 but some is more than none and something may not make a noticable diff on an auto tranni and then it does on a manual plus the driver and also what mods you do with the exhaust. there's so many variables that until i see a dyno of an 08 6 like mine ill keep my prior knowledge and opinions.

mazda6club.com

03-08, you're not going to see much difference on the 6i, though the 03 does have shorter gear ratios than any of the subsequent years for the manual, and thus I think it is the fastest 6i available. The 06+ 6i atx is about a full second faster (0-60) than the 03-05 automatic due to the 5 gears and better gearing overall, now that both the 6i atx/mtx share the same transmissions as the 3i/3s atx/mtx.

Driver obviously makes the biggest difference when comparing manual to manual but really, if something is noticeable on the automatic, it's noticeable on the manual.

Any information I spill out is always from something I've seen. I like to read a lot (LOTS) and I'm still very new to cars, so I try to keep opinions on what works mod-wise to a minimum and back it up with facts.

And while I agree that while they may or may not be much difference and some is better than none, why bother wasting so much time and money over something that, for the past 6 years, has been accepted to not give any gains? Get a Short Ram, optimized throttle body, and header for less than the greddy exhaust and a HELL of a lot more of a difference.

[2k8mazda6]

who makes headers? the ones i find are for 07's and i know that there's not much difference but i just want to be sure. And blue i planned on it cause personally something feels different idk yet

[Business]

Header, not headers. The only ones currently available are those from F2 (f2usa.com) and the $1k autoexe header available on SU. I'd love to get that one, hahaha.

Here are two videos from my last autocross back in december, so you can hear the change in sound that a header and exhaust can make, lol:
outside the car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNz7QIdznfY
inside the car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA4m5_SHssI

[Colonel Speed]

yea looking at that......... u do know that your hot gases are now going DIRECTLY under your gas tank now right?
The gas tank is under the driver front and rear door. The only thing he is heating up is the spare tire.

[2k8mazda6]

thanks tyler. and when you refer to a header in a sentence you have to conjugate it. So when i say who makes headerS for my car(that's right) it wouldn't sound right if i said who makes header for my car.(sounds like a dumb-ass). the only way you would say header not headers would be--who makes a header for my car. god high school wasn't that hard guys

[Business]

Well that clearly lends itself to saying "a header."

Kick ass, I completely forgot what this topic was about!

[2k8mazda6]

like i said there are two ways to refer to it. either way sounds good. yeah didnt' i start this with saying how the car sounds?

[KissMyGrassFL.com]

The gas tank is under the driver front and rear door. The only thing he is heating up is the spare tire.
I hope you where kidding about where the gas tank sits. It is under the trunk. You can also see that that is where the tank vents. He needs to but a dump pipe. Or :selfdestruct:

[2k8mazda6]

Still alive! lol

[zoom zoom maz6]

mazda6club.com

03-08, you're not going to see much difference on the 6i, though the 03 does have shorter gear ratios than any of the subsequent years for the manual, and thus I think it is the fastest 6i available. The 06+ 6i atx is about a full second faster (0-60) than the 03-05 automatic due to the 5 gears and better gearing overall, now that both the 6i atx/mtx share the same transmissions as the 3i/3s atx/mtx.

Driver obviously makes the biggest difference when comparing manual to manual but really, if something is noticeable on the automatic, it's noticeable on the manual.

Any information I spill out is always from something I've seen. I like to read a lot (LOTS) and I'm still very new to cars, so I try to keep opinions on what works mod-wise to a minimum and back it up with facts.

And while I agree that while they may or may not be much difference and some is better than none, why bother wasting so much time and money over something that, for the past 6 years, has been accepted to not give any gains? Get a Short Ram, optimized throttle body, and header for less than the greddy exhaust and a HELL of a lot more of a difference.

Im a bit lost? I have one of the very first 03s off the assembly line. It was picked up march 17th 03...... how in the hell has anyone had their car 6 years? :)

I still believe those TBs are expensive noise makers.

dude you got to call me when you start your turbo build, MR Teas was pretty sweet setup and I would be more than happy to lend a hand.

Thinking that T28 is going to end up in the S13 soon here.....

[Business]

Im a bit lost? I have one of the very first 03s off the assembly line. It was picked up march 17th 03...... how in the hell has anyone had their car 6 years? :)

I still believe those TBs are expensive noise makers.

dude you got to call me when you start your turbo build, MR Teas was pretty sweet setup and I would be more than happy to lend a hand.

Thinking that T28 is going to end up in the S13 soon here.....

Meh, close enough regarding the years.

And you must be thinking of the throttle body spacer, not the optimized throttle body.

I've already sold the turbo and and the manifold. Don't need a quick spooling turbo doubling my torque in 1st gear as i'm coming out of a tight turn on the autocross course. I'd rather have a progressive power band instead of a "no power no power no power HOLY **** SO MUCH POWER"

Plus, NA has always been more interesting and appealing to me.

[Colonel Speed]

I hope you where kidding about where the gas tank sits. It is under the trunk. You can also see that that is where the tank vents. He needs to but a dump pipe. Or :selfdestruct:
Look under the driverside of you car plat, the gas tank is definatly under there, It would have to be tiny to fit under the spare tire.

[KissMyGrassFL.com]

I've been under it. the vent is right under the spare tire.

[Colonel Speed]

Thats not the vent. Thats were all the vavuum lines and stuff are. Its it absoulutly under the driver side. go look.

[zoom zoom maz6]

Meh, close enough regarding the years.

And you must be thinking of the throttle body spacer, not the optimized throttle body.

I've already sold the turbo and and the manifold. Don't need a quick spooling turbo doubling my torque in 1st gear as i'm coming out of a tight turn on the autocross course. I'd rather have a progressive power band instead of a "no power no power no power HOLY **** SO MUCH POWER"

Plus, NA has always been more interesting and appealing to me.

who doesnt need double torque? plus you have to spoil before that torque kicks in ;). you running a trans cooler?

lol I have that T28 all cleaned up looking super fresh..... about to break down and make it fit on my 6 though. shouldnt be much more than 500 bucks as all I need is manifolds(something doable at work) and mega squirt!

would just need the down time to do it. Then again Im not living years in the future either.... lol

PS yep I typed late and was thinking of the TB spacer not the optimized TB.... sometimes the wires dont hook up all the way ya know :).

[Business]

Nah, it'd be a total waste for me to do it. Once I started to really think about how I drive and what I like to do with my car, the more it dawned on me that a turbo doesn't matter to me in a car that isn't already turboed from the factory.

I'd be interested in seeing a T28 on a 6s though...

[2k8mazda6]

i keep thinking about it. being the 1st(that i know of) 2k8 turbo'd 6. it'd be quite quick

[zoom zoom maz6]

Nah, it'd be a total waste for me to do it. Once I started to really think about how I drive and what I like to do with my car, the more it dawned on me that a turbo doesn't matter to me in a car that isn't already turboed from the factory.

I'd be interested in seeing a T28 on a 6s though...

Im sure you would :). me 2. hell I would be happy with an ECU that didnt blow donkey dick

[2k8mazda6]

hey hey its not that bad. i mean we could have a 1.6 sohc motor. c'mon guys are cars are still nice for the price and to be honest there sleepers. all 4 of them m3 ms3 m6 ms6 cause most ppl dont know what they are. did yall see the episode of top gear where they did the mazda6..

heres the link if you didnt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CwFN4GlzU4

[zoom zoom maz6]

never said the car was bad.......... it was just engineered by crack addicted midgets. Every now and again you will find corners cut.....(ask blue he is an expert)

the PCM component of the ECU is so apt to fail I have gone through 4-7 I cant even remember. It makes for tuning impossible. also the VVT system is a hinderence when you start big HP builds(not a real issue as PCM will funk you over first).

the motor mounts were stupidly cheap.

lastly, the installation of things such as the motor/trans/and HLs were designed for quick assembly....... trying to take them apart can be a real pita as once it is off the line they dont care about those taking them apart.


the most important thing though...... for the money you cant buy a much better car these days.

[2k8mazda6]

truskyies. but still turbo'd 6 would be SEX!!! but im still just thinking about the basics header-back intake and like take out some unnecessary bs back-seats spar tire(i have AAA anywhere fo' free thanx mom) but with that stuff it'll be a hell of a lot faster. well of to s.u.com to look for parts

[bluestreak6]

he has an 08 so all of the f u c k ups should be fixed by now.

[2k8mazda6]

god i hope so!!!! 2800 miles and no problems yet other than the gay-ass engine mounts.

[2k8mazda6]

hey blue the way things are going im not to sure if my car is going to be stock on dyno day. warranty is fixing to be epic voided lol. prolly gonna have headers and intake(not a gutted airbox not trying to be mean lol) and maybe something fun done to the cat back and depending on what i get for graduation suspension or clutch stuff.

[Nealio]

This thread = FAIL

[bluestreak6]

Neal you have noticed that threads here never stay on topic right?
2k8 it'll still be nice to know what happens, but fyi sri is better than cai for our car....... as long as u have a heat shield

[Business]

No heat shield needed. When driving the IAT for my SRI is a mere 2 degrees above ambient and when at a stop, it goes up to 120 degrees. Some guy on 6club just posted that his CAI is pulling in 150 degree air, which is ridiculous. In June, I'd like to borrow someone's CAI to do some track testing and monitoring of the temperatures.

The SRI showed a nearly quarter second gain over the CAI...and the CAI never managed to break past my stock times. Food for thought.

[Nealio]

Neal you have noticed that threads here never stay on topic right?
2k8 it'll still be nice to know what happens, but fyi sri is better than cai for our car....... as long as u have a heat shield
Never stays on topic.

6i SRI>CAI
6s SRI<<<<<<CAI

[2k8mazda6]

not to be a noob but what do those stand for. sri. cai?

[Nealio]

SRI=Short Ram Intake
CAI=Cold Air Intake

[jroc]

No heat shield needed. When driving the IAT for my SRI is a mere 2 degrees above ambient and when at a stop, it goes up to 120 degrees. Some guy on 6club just posted that his CAI is pulling in 150 degree air, which is ridiculous. In June, I'd like to borrow someone's CAI to do some track testing and monitoring of the temperatures.

The SRI showed a nearly quarter second gain over the CAI...and the CAI never managed to break past my stock times. Food for thought.

wow that dude is on crack...i live in the damn desert and my IAT's were 5-20 above ambient in the summer with a CAI, according to a dashhawk.

[2k8mazda6]

in all honesty im probably going to have a cai just cause i like them more personally. maybe that one from s.u that has the upgraded maf sensor. Business if i have it dyno day one of your pulls you can use it.

[bluestreak6]

i think he did pulls w/ the 2. or was it just 1/4 mile?

[Business]

I did 3 pulls on a dyno stock and like 3-4 runs at the strip like that too. Then I did a half dozen runs at the strip with the CAI without besting my stock time and then the 25+ runs after that have been with the SRI.

[2k8mazda6]

you guys confuse me on what to do. cause that cai with the maf sensor looks tempting but the prices looks like NO idk we'll just have to play around at dyno day

[Business]

SRI is the best bang for the buck, period.

[bigjon_04]

Who makes the best sri for our car?

[Business]

I have an AEM, but there is no noticeable difference between any brand of SRI. Same thing with the CAI with the exception of the CP-E intake.

[bigjon_04]

Okay, which is the cheapest as far as price goes?

[bigjon_04]

I noticed that they make em (SRI) for 03-04. Does ne one make em for 05?

[zoom zoom maz6]

the 03-05s are ALL THE SAME.

[bigjon_04]

Alright, I was just checkin.

[2k8mazda6]

all the intakes work on 08's? and what about the cp-e?

[Nealio]

Yes, it will work, you just need the 06-08 wiring guide.

[2k8mazda6]

what's the difference in a regular intake (Sr or Ca) and that cp-e one?

[Business]

The CP-E CAI is 3" diameter where as all the other intakes are 2.75" piping (I believe they all are.) Additionally, the CP-E CAI has the MAFCI which tricks the ecu into reading a different A/F ratio and prevents check engine lights for running too lean. That's where the extra power from the CP-E intake comes from. Whether or not it's worth 3-5 times as much as other intakes is up to you.

[2k8mazda6]

we'll i mean if the power gains are there then why not. but then again idk. maybe. thanx for the info. from what you know what's the power difference?

[Business]

SRI/CAI's are somewhere between 4-8hp gains. The CP-E intake though gives up to 10hp/tq.

From what I can remember, there are no real dynos before and after of any other intake though. Kinda weird.

[bluestreak6]

gotta love promotions!!!!!

[2k8mazda6]

true. i think im gonna buy the cpe one just cause lol